When a movement is hijacked: on 269 and ruining lives.


I posted awhile ago about my pride in participating in the 269 action. Now my pride has been destroyed as good actions by so many have been hijacked and corrupted to serve a sickening agenda.

Of late there has been a growing push from within the movement to work with all comers, be they racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, or any other brand of bigot. This is a completely twisted course to take. Animal rights is only effective so long as people respect us, these actions do nothing but discredit us.

While inequality exists for ANY inequality will remain for all, the only way a movement ofr the scope and sheer size of animal rights can be effective is through intersectional activism. Nobody should be forced to sell out one belief to support another. If you want to be racist all you will do is brand a good movement as racist. If you are sexist your actions will taint the entire movement. That stain will never wash away.Of late many of 269’s actions are to my eyes as a feminist sickening, misogynistic, and add to rape culture. This is unacceptable. From bigotry springs speciesism, as long as a human being can say they’re only, be it they’re only a nationality, a sex, a sexuality, a gender, or a species the slaughterhouses will continue to thrive. After all, if we can say of our fellow humans they’re only then it reinforces the “they’re only animals” paradigm that we fight to overcome. 269 You have lost your way, please as a movement reconsider your actions, look to the consequences and change before we fail everything we fought for.

28 Comments

  1. Real AR! said,

    August 23, 2013 at 5:49 pm

    Stop trying to force your politics on the movement. 269 is for the non-humans animals!

    • August 23, 2013 at 6:02 pm

      stop trying to force yours on me, I’ve been backstabbed by people I considered friends over this. What the fuck happened that good ARA got so disillusioned they started to sell out to fascists who care for animals about as much as a fish cares about cycling.

    • August 23, 2013 at 6:06 pm

      or am I no good now I’ve served as your sodding publicity stunt? I was involved in this action and now I’ve seen the fallout am I not allowed to voice my opposition to the direction you have taken things in?

  2. GH said,

    August 23, 2013 at 6:02 pm

    You are the one hijacking the animals movement for your ends!

    • August 23, 2013 at 6:04 pm

      by pointing out that oppression doesn’t exist in a vacuum? sorry but how are animals served by us all being viewed as sexist racist scum?

    • August 23, 2013 at 6:10 pm

      I participated because I saw a sensible action taken to show even the least hint of the horrors animals are being subjected to. Now that I’ve finally had the charges against me dropped I see people using it to oppose the carefully laid framework we had against opression in AR here in the UK.

  3. J said,

    August 23, 2013 at 6:08 pm

    269 has always taken this view publicly. You are the one hijacking as you should have known this.

    • August 23, 2013 at 6:12 pm

      odd how I only saw the side that talked about passing peoples details to the EDL come about recently.

      • J said,

        August 23, 2013 at 6:16 pm

        No one has said that as a 269 viewpoint.

      • August 23, 2013 at 6:21 pm

        Are you in the UK, this has been discussed, hence my anger.

      • August 23, 2013 at 6:27 pm

        and all things considered speciesism was discrimination against ANY species, including our own. Had I known the nonhumans forst declaration would be used in such a way do you think I would ever have done ANYTHING that supported it? I don’t know when things got so twisted but I will always fight for all not just the ones I like, and if that gets me branded a traitor so be it, trash me , all this shit has done is shown me how bad good intentions can go.

  4. 269 supporter said,

    August 23, 2013 at 6:22 pm

    269 has a view, you should have been aware of it before you took part.

    • August 23, 2013 at 6:29 pm

      I was aware you were doing what you could to show people the horror of how animals are treating by empathy. I was aware of rumors but I spoke to several people who said you did not support and would not tolerate fascism, guess I was mislead.

  5. Real AR! said,

    August 23, 2013 at 6:32 pm

    This is a 269 statement made before you were banded, proving you are the one hijacking!

    “It’s unacceptable for anyone who consider themselves a non-speciesist vegan person to promote human rights. Can anyone imagine a partisan who fights at noon to liberate Jews from concentration camps held by Nazis, and at night to make conditions for the Nazis better? It’s a contradiction. We, as people who are committed to justice, cannot ignore that contradiction. We need to understand that theoretically, animals deserve rights just as humans deserve rights. Theoretically we are all equal in the moral status, but in reality, human rights come at the expense of animal rights. It’s a fact. As the socio-economic situation of people improves, more animals are abused and murdered. As more countries become free and developed, the more we’ll see industrialized animal agriculture. We mustn’t ignore this paradox. We need to comprehend that humans are the animals’ criminals. Theoretically, all humans deserve rights, but in reality, rapists’ rights come on the expense of women’s rights. We need to choose sides, the animals or the humans – we can’t choose both. Do we want to be on the victims’ side or on the criminals’ side? This is one reason why we should invest all our time in promoting animal rights, and not be active for people.”

    • August 23, 2013 at 6:42 pm

      there is a huge difference between supporting animal rights as a primary goal and actively working with those who deliberately undermine human rights.

    • August 23, 2013 at 6:44 pm

      oppression does not exist as a solitary thing and any too shortsighted to see that have my sympathies because they doom their campaigns before they even begin.

    • H said,

      August 29, 2013 at 2:28 pm

      Can you please give a link to this statement? Is the source an official 269 site?

  6. August 23, 2013 at 6:51 pm

    By the way whichever coward it is repeatedly using utrolls to slag me off do me a favour and get lost. If you wanna use a proxy for sockpuppets at least have the common sense not to use one with TROLLS in the name.

  7. Real AR! said,

    August 23, 2013 at 6:59 pm

    You need to stop lying, 269 have never mentioned fash that is you. Individuals may have but not 269 directly.

    • August 23, 2013 at 7:07 pm

      actually it is a hotly debated topic all over facebook in the UK I gain nothing by lying but the truth is costing me people I considered friends, so what would I gain by lying? NOTHING.

    • August 23, 2013 at 7:08 pm

      but go on believing what you will, and I’ll continue to be honest.

      • Real AR! said,

        August 23, 2013 at 7:36 pm

        Yes it is debated on FB, not said by 269!

      • August 23, 2013 at 8:19 pm

        unless 269 is a monolithic hive mind silent assent with what is proposed is like the copper who didn’t see anything.

  8. August 23, 2013 at 9:50 pm

    There is a difference between working exclusively for animal rights and working with racists or fascists to forward the aims of animal liberation.
    I ask you seriously, why would we want anything to do with them, how would it further our aims to be working with people who discriminate against other humans?

  9. tsipi said,

    August 24, 2013 at 7:08 am

    I agree so much! Do you have links or examples? I’ve done a lot to promote 269, need to know whether to stop.

    • August 24, 2013 at 9:31 am

      To be honest I don’t think turning away is the answer, better to just speak upp and call bullshit whenn ya see it.

  10. H said,

    August 29, 2013 at 12:05 am

    I’m so angry right now, mostly at myself. As an anarchist and and an believer in the “one struggle” concept as the only option for liberation, I should have taken my time before showing such avid support in this group. I actually want to remove my tattoo or cover it, but the spot I picked is very problamtic in that sense. I truly hate the fact the I am now idenitified with a group that does not hasitate to promote misogony and rape culture. ahhhhhhhh

  11. September 23, 2013 at 11:33 am

    don’t blame yourself, none of us expected the way this would go.


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